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Any chance Trainchinese could incorporate Traditional forms of characters. These are essential for many students of Chinese, who often have to mastera reading (at least (but often writing, too) full forms characters? I am an iPhone user and would love to use the flashcard program include full forms, at least as a user defined option, because without it it's totally useless for me. Cheers!
  
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I'll wait with purchasing my paid subscription until then but I'll be definitely popping in every now and then to see if there's any news on this subject. It's a real shame, cos the lack of traditional is for me (and my other classmates, who have to master both form sets) a major flaw on an ontherwise extreemely promissing program, especially since a number of free iPhone apps out there have this option from the start. Unfortunately, apart from that, these apps are more often than not rather poor as dictionaries, and even worse as flashcard trainers, so I'm definitely looking forward to your implementing the full forms.
Answered 119 months ago by chinskycraze
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When starting trainchinese we needed to start  with a focus and we decided to initially use only simplified characters, in the form they are used in mainland China and more and more also in modern Chinese literature from outside mainland China.  One additional reason for our decision was the experience from (nearly all) young Chinese living on the mainland who learn only simplified characters. Even so they can  interpret traditional characters (always with some exceptions and certainly with more difficulty if reading older Chinese literature).
We are fully aware that this approach may (unfortunately) not address those students who need to learn traditional characters from the start. That is the reason that once we have finished in developing our offerings using simplified characters we plan to include traditional characters (but certainly this will still take quite some time).
Answered 119 months ago by klaus
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I also want to learn traditional characters actively, and to recognise simplified characters. Until then I\'ll be a waiting patiently.
Answered 119 months ago by Lars
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Hi Lars,
I sure hope more people will join this thread. I think there\'s quite a demand out there for traditional characters, and we should definitely make ourselves heard. Nearly half of the people in my course, for example, own an iPhone or and iPod Touch partly because there are so many Chinese tools available in the app store, but none of them uses trainchinese, since traditional charracters are compulsory at my university.

There is one or two similar threads on this forum, just search for \'traditional\' You might want to take a look.
Answered 119 months ago by chinskycraze
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@ all the traditional characters freaks out there,

I\'d like to quote here part of a message I got from Klaus that is relevant to this thread, (albeit the original message was on a totally unrelated topic).

Klaus says:

\"By the way we just planned for the activities starting mid of January (after all of us are back from holidays) and we will also start working on the traditional characters. This will be done in phases, starting with support on the website, then one by one for the different applications (starting with the normal Mobile phone, then the Desktop application, iPhone and Android application - while the order when we tackle each of this apps is not clear yet). Just the provision of the stroke order animation for the traditional characters will not be possible fro some time as we still are working on the simplified ones - and it takes quite some time to get them.

Thanks again for your support and your suggestions

Klaus\"

That\'s some great news for all of us.

And Klaus, thanks for the swift reply and for really moving the matter of traditional characters up the agenda. I\'m really impressed with customer support and the speed at which trainchinese is addressing the issues here. Keep up the good work, and I\'m sure success is of the site is imminent. So impressed in fact, that I\'m actually considering taking your word for it, Klaus, and purchasing the paid subscription before the traditional characters feature appears. Trainchinese is a great flashcard app, the only flashcard program which I actually don\'t find borying (and that is saying something, because I have a really high boredom threshold).

Btw. I hope the trainchinese will enable a student to train BOTH traditional and simplified forms, and won\'t require choosing just one version from start till end. (Just a hint here :D)
Answered 119 months ago by chinskycraze
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This is a great app. I am a Chinese language teacher and have been looking at different apps to recommend to all my students. The main need we have here is for Cantonese (and traditional characters). For my students it is compulsory that they learn traditional characters (as if one can read traditional, they can often recognise most of the simplified ones!). Are you planning at all to add Cantonese phonetics/audio in the future?

James

Answered 118 months ago by jaasa
klaus says:
As mentioned we are planning to add support for traditional characters (actually work on this has already started). Concerning Cantonese, we may add this at some point in the future but currently there are no plans to add it.
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Happy to hear the works are already in progress. I hope that the new versions of trainchinese applications will have a setting for students to study both forms at a time, rather than forcing them to choose between either the Traditional or Simplified characters.

Cheers,

chinskycraze

Answered 118 months ago by chinskycraze
klaus says:
Our concept currently foresees that:
Users have to decide on a preferred Character set (ie Simplified or Traditional) which will be used when displaying results of the dictionary, the list of words and the list of flashcards.
Two additional training modes (Reading traditional Characters and  Writing traditional Characters) will be added to the training modes. By default this modes will be switched on/off based on the preference of characters, but this could be changed by the user to include both (Traditional and Simplified). In effect if a users decides to learn both modes in reading and writing then each card would have a total of 6 modes:
  • Translation
  • Recognition (based on audio)
  • Reading traditional characters
  • Reading simplified characters
  • Writing of traditional characters
  • Reading of simplified characters
All of the modes will need to be learned to get the card to sleep - and of course also for the card to be completely learned.

Implementation of this will still take some time as it involves changes on the database, the website the synchronization methods and  for all our applications!
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For those who are checking out this question, let you now that we now are supporting both traditional characters and simplified characters. You can decide what to use just by changing the Settings of your account !
Answered 114 months ago by klaus